Hi Keith, sending PM's to me is not worth it when you disable receipt
As to your question, and your false dreams of chinese prices - those prices are utterly not realistic, I presume you have not dealt with alibaba before ?
ANY company - virtually - well the ones in the lcd industry - will HAPPILLY make you a '10"' LCD as you quote display, but with tooling costs etc you would be paying thousands - EACH for a small order. You are dreaming. I have dealt with Alibaba and China / Chinese import for years and know what I am talking about.
It is utterly pointless when you do not need to do it.
You are creating a sim cockpit with many 3d printed panels - these look - well, like 3d printed panels. Not really realistic. I don't understand why you want to spend many many thousands of pounds on displays that add absolutely nothing to your sim in the way of realism. You would be better going and buying a commercial system. At least it would LOOK somewhat realistic. I think you need to take a break and step back and be realistic.
That is the way it is. You don't seem to be understanding.
Joe
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Hi Joe, there's different way indeed, here we can understand Keith has the joy to build by himself which is a real satisfaction for those being creative, some other on far approach want to go faster and prefer to buy ready to use devices, at the opposite of most of us are performing here on the forums ... just a matter to follow our own way I presume ...
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Hi Gilles absolutely agreed.SimPassion wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 8:52 am Hi Joe, there's different way indeed, here we can understand Keith has the joy to build by himself which is a real satisfaction for those being creative, some other on far approach want to go faster and prefer to buy ready to use devices, at the opposite of most of us are performing here on the forums ... just a matter to follow our own way I presume ...
It just is utterly nonsensical to try to make home made a cockpit with reasonable / poor quality 3d printed panels (crap backlighting etc) and then add - or try to add - custom lcd displays at 1000 dollars EACH that are not needed as the standard (CHEAP AND AVAILABLE 16:9 18.5 inch displays fit perfectly and do the job 100% AT LEAST as well as the originals so no competition ! - focus the efforts elsewhere for gawd's sake !!!!!!! . It beggars belief.
ALL the major suppliers use those monitors!. NO major supplier uses horrible 3d printed facia panels as they are CHEAPER to buy from other sources in better quality such as cnc machined acrylic.
It is like tying to make a purse out of a sow's ear
It is a lack of COMMON SENSE, IQ and budget awareness. A TOTAL lack of understanding. NOTHING to do with wanting to go a personal route.
sheesh
Joe
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Joe,
We have gone OT here.
Lets move the discussion to my 737 build thread.
viewtopic.php?p=36885#p36885
Keith
We have gone OT here.
Lets move the discussion to my 737 build thread.
viewtopic.php?p=36885#p36885
Keith
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Joe,.......
Here's an example of my MIP. Please note the green area. This is a single 18.5 16:9 AR panel with PSU from a HP W1972a iirc. That does both DUs. That is what is normally used per side. On the right side of the image - which is the Pilot side - you can also see the mechanical chrono (a SISMO unit) mounted. You can clearly see the LCD panel which is for the dual DUs and the panel mounted to the back is the power supply and driver board.
there are loads of arduino compatible 3.5 / 4" displays that will work for the IRS etc, you can make any font you want, but you are into messageport of course.
Joe
What thickness / gauge and material is the sheet metal you used for the panels?
Did you do the fabrication?
Kirk
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Hi,Kaellis991 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 4:47 pmJoe,.......
Here's an example of my MIP. Please note the green area. This is a single 18.5 16:9 AR panel with PSU from a HP W1972a iirc. That does both DUs. That is what is normally used per side. On the right side of the image - which is the Pilot side - you can also see the mechanical chrono (a SISMO unit) mounted. You can clearly see the LCD panel which is for the dual DUs and the panel mounted to the back is the power supply and driver board.
there are loads of arduino compatible 3.5 / 4" displays that will work for the IRS etc, you can make any font you want, but you are into messageport of course.
Joe
What thickness / gauge and material is the sheet metal you used for the panels?
Did you do the fabrication?
Kirk
Joe bought our late friend Derk's @jedeen setup. Not sure if his build web is still available but on Derk's web there was a lot of info on his build.
@SimPassion might have some links to The build and of course Joe might have changed some things.
Keith
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Keith,
I was just wondering what type of metal and thicknesses are typical for cockpit builds.
I was just wondering what type of metal and thicknesses are typical for cockpit builds.
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Derk's site is no more available
I still have some huge backup from him, however I can't seem to find the great info from his original site
I still have some huge backup from him, however I can't seem to find the great info from his original site
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Hi Kirk, 3mm steel for the frame. You could use Duralloy (Hard grade aluminium. This is a Heinz brand (57 varieties)
You can get the steel frames laser cut cheaply, probably locally to you - or alloy. I would use Alloy
It needs to be REALLY rigid with plenty of rear supports as otherwise the whole thing feels like crap when you push a button etc. ESEPCIALLY the overhead.
A few commercial suppliers sell complete MIP frames for less than a couple of grand. (that is just the metalwork) but is a great base to start from.
I have some assembly instructions from a commercial unit (not this) but it shows the type of suitable frame.
Joe
You can get the steel frames laser cut cheaply, probably locally to you - or alloy. I would use Alloy
It needs to be REALLY rigid with plenty of rear supports as otherwise the whole thing feels like crap when you push a button etc. ESEPCIALLY the overhead.
A few commercial suppliers sell complete MIP frames for less than a couple of grand. (that is just the metalwork) but is a great base to start from.
I have some assembly instructions from a commercial unit (not this) but it shows the type of suitable frame.
Joe
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Hi Kirk,
check out this link for a REALISTIC MIP assembly with LCDs etc.
https://www.opencockpits.com/uploads/ma ... mpleto.pdf
Some VERY useful and informative stuff here. If you compare this to what some others have posted you will see where they have wasted their energy.
this is very similar to what I use.
Joe
check out this link for a REALISTIC MIP assembly with LCDs etc.
https://www.opencockpits.com/uploads/ma ... mpleto.pdf
Some VERY useful and informative stuff here. If you compare this to what some others have posted you will see where they have wasted their energy.
this is very similar to what I use.
Joe
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